Gareth had a quick chat with Sir Richard Branson on board the Virgin Atlantic 787 Dreamliner. They talked about his accomplishments, doing things that make the world a better place and what South Africa could do better. Sir Richard mentioned that he and Thabo Mbeki had a plan to give universal health care to all South Africans on the day he was ousted in Polokwane. He also revealed that he and his team saved a man in Oklahoma from execution as part of his effort to end the death penalty worldwide. The interview ended with Sir Richard asking Gareth about CliffCentral and freedom of expression.