Gareth sits down with Forbes Africa’s managing editor, Chris Bishop. Coming from a family of journalists, Chris takes us on a trip down memory lane of all the interesting encounters he’s had with some of the continent’s leaders. He talks about the times he interviewed Nelson Mandela and how Madiba never wanted to be regarded as a saint. Chris also shares stories of his encounters with Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe. They look at the state of SA’s economy and compare it to other African countries, while Chris proposes possible solutions in how we can grow our economy. And what is Chris’s take on the DJ Sbu fake Forbes cover debacle from last year?