I remember the school run fondly. My mom would load me, my brother, and sister into the car and take us on the 30-minute drive to school. The journey had a familiar routine – passing by the same places, chatting and laughing. Someone else was always in the car though – the radio. There was a DJ cracking corny jokes at the same time every morning, making a predictable prank call, playing the number one song on the charts for that day (in 1992, it was Whitney Houston’s ‘I Will Always Love You’, which meant that we all had to hear that song every day for months, so that it was tattooed on the inside of our skulls and infected our dreams), and someone reading the news headlines. Those morning drives were the context for my teenage years…

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You know the name but you’ve never heard his story told quite this way. Ahead of the Johannesburg leg of his Final Journey world tour, Johnny Clegg sits down with Gareth to highlight some of the stories from his 40+ years in the music industry, beginning with how his character was shaped and his personality emancipated by falling in love with the Zulu culture as a young man. Hear how his jazz singer mother and stepfather who left when he was 14 impacted him, as well as how he’s been touring since 1983. And hear Johnny detail one of his all-time favourite moments: performing ‘Asimbonanga’ with Nelson Mandela on stage. This interview originally aired on 3 October 2017.

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PJ Powers opens the show with a tribute to the legendary Johnny Clegg. The cast of ‘Here’s To You – The Simon & Garfunkel Songbook’, Josh Ansley (The Voice SA), Ashleigh Butcher (Peppa Pig) and Daniel Geddes (Avenue Q) join us in studio with incredible live music and song. We chat to Nathan Ro in Cape Town about ‘Kinky Boots’, and we celebrate a taste of South India with Thava restaurant.

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Former President Jacob Zuma’s testimony at the State Capture Inquiry was slightly anticlimactic, given that he didn’t admit much. City Press journalist Juniour Khumalo, who’s been covering the Inquiry, has read between the lines nonetheless and gives his take on what our previous Number One citizen disclosed. Following the death of legendary musician Johnny Clegg, Gareth interrogates the team on where the boundaries of cultural appropriation lie. Could Hillary Clinton be the answer the democrats need? Kanthan Pillay teases that idea when discussing the 2020 elections, and more around US politics. Brought to you by Nando’s.

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18.07.19 Pt 2 – The Pillay Mansion was abuzz with a great dinner party last night, which Kanthan shares details about. Phumi’s beaming about the weather getting warmer… but on the note of heat, City Press journalist Juniour Khumalo explains his spicy experience of covering Former President Zuma’s testimony at the State Capture Inquiry. Hear that, and a wrap up of the biggest political stories this week too.

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Have you noticed how we’re inundated with ads about unbeatable savings and red hot offers – basically trying to get us to spend money out of impulse or convenience? But this is actually simply spending (which is the unseen) disguised as saving (the seen). July is National Savings Month and Coronation is encouraging South Africans to think about how they are spending their money, possibly on things that we really don’t need or without even realising we are doing it. Gareth Cliff and team share stories about what they’ve all spent money on – realising afterwards it was ridiculous and ended up costing more…

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Millions of people around the world have been forced to flee their homes, but have remained within the borders of their country of origin. These internally displaced people – or IDPs – are often referred to as refugees by virtue of being displaced, yet they are not legally considered to be refugees. Scores of IDPs are stuck in this inhumane predicament with little to no aid. Is their struggle less important than refugees who are in foreign countries? And how do we intervene to curb the growing number of IPDs in South Africa? This thought-provoking episode of The Interchange is made possible by Absa and Tshimong.

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18.07.19 Pt 1 – What does your DNA say about you? The team chats about the advancement of technology and what is now possible. It’s animal planet in Northcliff according to Phumi, as she’s been spotting wild animals roaming in and around her neigbourhood. Do family WhatsApp groups bring us closer together or are they a pain in the ass? Siya shares some interesting messages from his loving father.

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17.07.19 Pt 2 – Disney stories are evolving and so are the characters, but should adults really take such a personal interest in these fantasy stories? Tributes for Johnny Clegg continue to pour in as some of his closest friends and peers share their experiences with the African legend.

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17.07.19 Pt 1 – Gareth and Gord share their fondest memories of musical legend Johnny Clegg. FaceApp has taken social media by storm, but are you vain if you don’t want to use it? Gareth seems to think so. The team discuss social media influencers and how they’ve made careers out of endorsing different brands, but are they really bringing any value to the table? Gord has earned a reputation for talking a bit too much, but this morning he has some true wisdom to share.

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