If ever there was someone to get inspirational leadership lessons from, it’s Adv. Thuli Madonsela. According to the advocate, being a leader is about thinking about the impact your life has on other people. She also discusses how important it is to make people feel significant and that they are being listened to. When asked about her role models, she talks about her mother, who was very compassionate, and her father, who was a disciplinarian. The ultimate message is that we can all come together to fight corruption and continue to develop South Africa. So what’s next for the retiring public protector? This interview was first played in May 2016.