Advocate Dali Mpofu and DJ Fresh join Gareth Cliff for a conversation on the state of South Africa after a week of racial tensions. The former CEO of the SABC and National Chairperson of the EFF openly speaks about why he sees racism and economic exploitation as the same thing and explains why he views Marikana as a metaphor for where we are. Mpofu also touches on his involvement with the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) and his life as a family man. DJ Fresh makes provocative statements about his own politics and keeping your mouth shut some of the time. Listen to the wisdom of these powerful South Africans.