The team behind our new show, Freedom versus, discuss the fascinating journey they’ve travelled to creating the podcast. Cecelia Kok, Gwen Ngwenya and Mark Oppenheimer speak on the importance of freedom, as well as touch on some of the issues they dive into on the show – including identity politics, censorship and religion. Through realising that freedom isn’t free, and rather something you have to constantly work for, they also give their take on sensitivity around many topics in the world and how they plan to tread the fine line.




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Freedom versus: Gwen Ngwenya, Mark Oppenheimer & Cecelia Kok