Gareth and Phumi are joined by Assistant Editor for Breaking News at News24, Sheldon Morais, and the new CEO of the Institute of Race Relations (IRR), John Endres. They have a heated discussion about the State Capture report, the global inflation and interest rate environment, and Cyril Ramphosa being a mediocre president.

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03.02.22 Pt 2 - Joining the show for the first time is Sheldon Morais, the Assistant Editor for Breaking News at News24, and John Endres, the new CEO of the Institute of Race Relations (IRR). They look at the latest news stories - including the State Capture report, population census, lockdowns and more.

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What is the cost of telling the truth in the face of overwhelming pressure? Poet, philosopher and author of 'Deep Collusion: Bain and the Capture of South Africa', Athol Williams is the State Capture whistleblower who testified about massive corruption allegations and had to flee the country in fear of his life. Gareth Cliff speaks to him about his fascinating story.

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