15.02.24 Pt 2 - Kanthan Pillay questions Change Starts Now president, Roger Jardine, about the true state of democracy in South Africa. Does minimum wage affect our competitiveness in the global economy? Plus, all things cadre deployment.

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Dr Alan Mendoza is a Founder and the Executive Director of the Henry Jackson Society - which is a British-based think tank with a global outlook. He directs analysis, research focus, strategy and development for the organisation. Since this discussion was recorded on the day Boris Johnson resigned as Prime Minister, Gareth launched straight into that. The conversation touched on Russia/Ukraine, China, the political left and right, free speech and briefly, South Africa.

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Pie-Pacifique was 13 when the war in Rwanda started, and he lived through the terror of the ensuing genocide. His experience of it, and the story of how his life fell apart and was rebuilt from nothing is inspiring and extraordinary. He sat down with Gareth to explore just a few of the unbelievable and terrifying things he has been through - from refugee, to car guard, to university graduate, to businessman.

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