20.07.20 Pt 2 - Should it scare us that conspiracy theories are less ludicrous than government actions? If you speak to somebody, surely it doesn't mean you endorse everything they believe, or does it? If you buy nice stuff in lockdown, what's the point... who are you going to show it off to? Snacking and laziness kill more than Covid. Palesa Lengolo, author of 'Stokvels: How they can make your money work for you', joins us to discuss South Africa's economic secret weapon.