Muzi Kuzwayo has written an inspirational book on how we can make South Africa live up to its incredible potential. He and Gareth explore the ways we can get South Africa to deliver on the promise - the promise of 1994 and the bright future we could have.

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Is corruption always to the detriment of a state? Is it ever necessary for quantum leaps in societal progress? Are there any countries in the developed world who have benefited from periods of corruption to become what they are? If you have corruption in your government and it leads to growth, at what stage do you start seeing diminishing returns? Would the Western world be what it is without corruption? Brought to you by The Gas Company.

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