08.02.24 Pt 1 - Gareth and Phumi reflect on their visit to Gomolemo’s family yesterday, and get into the structural ideas of culture in times like this. Phumi talks about Bafana Bafana’s journey in AFCON this year, and gives them their flowers. Gareth has some thoughts about the President after a phone call with Grammy Award-winning South African artist, Tyla.

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